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There is enough opportunity for trolling as it is. We don't need to institutionalize it.
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korxonthos wrote:
...so I can express my criticism without raising my profile.


This is just why there aren't thumbs down. It's not a criticism but merely a drive-by expression of disapproval, and it can easily be taken as hurtful.

Posts that are merely bad sink into obscurity. Even the ones that are hot today will cool with time.

Posts that are positively pernicious call for response with articulated reasons rather than just nigh-anonymous disdain.
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frumpish wrote:
There is enough opportunity for trolling as it is. We don't need to institutionalize it.


This. More concise than my reply.

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Why so negative?


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there is


it is just in the shape of a red "X"
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Also they did the thumbs down symbol for a while, it really really really didn't work. (games gonna game)
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virre wrote:
Also they did the thumbs down symbol for a while, it really really really didn't work. (games gonna game)


Agreed. Thumbs down were tried for a few months, probably 2007 or so, and it just caused major issues around the community. I'm all for keeping it positive.
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korxonthos wrote:
There are some comments and reviews on BBG with which I disagree so thoroughly that I really wish there was a thumbs down button, so I can express my criticism without raising my profile. Seriously, I really wish BBG could implement a thumbs down button, or else every post that agrees with with a negative review with 30+ thumbs will drive me berserk.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "without raising your profile". If you mean that you want your disapproval to remain anonymous, you seem to be forgetting that anyone can check to see who thumbed a post. I assume it would be the same if anyone down-thumbed a post.

And then you have the issue of somebody down-thumbing a post just because they hold a personal grudge against someone. And there are people that would go through and down-thumb every single post of somebody else just because that person gave them a down-thumb. And other people will get all of their friends to down-thumb somebody's post(s) because the other person gave them a down-thumb. And I could go on and on. I've seen stuff like that on reddit, even though those thumbs are anonymous. We don't need that here.
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Wouldn't and didn't make the site a nicer place.
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Thumbs down might work if it didn't display the usernames of who thumbed what. You get more honesty out of people when the system is anonymous, for better or for worse. The powers that be have decided that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages though.
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korxonthos wrote:
OK. I get the point.

Well, then ...
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virre wrote:
Also they did the thumbs down symbol for a while, it really really really didn't work. (games gonna game)


And that's putting it mildly. It got poisonous very quickly, and the down thumbs were yanked to much relief.
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it is just in the shape of a red white "X"
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The main purpose of the thumbs is to bring attention to the content that is most interesting. Thumbs down was almost counterproductive for that purpose. If a lot of people like something, it is probably interesting, even if a lot of other people don't like it.
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dakarp wrote:
The main purpose of the thumbs is to bring attention to the content that is most interesting. Thumbs down was almost counterproductive for that purpose. If a lot of people like something, it is probably interesting, even if a lot of other people don't like it.


I disagree. You're trying to impart some sense of quality with the thumb system, but really the system appears to suffer from way too much "groupthink" to really serve as a reliable means of determining post quality, especially when what makes a post worthwhile is so subjective to begin with.
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It was, in fact, tried many years ago now. It was a race to the bottom. Totally lame.
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korxonthos wrote:
But why does YouTube have a thumbs down button?


Have you read YouTube comments? They make RSP look positively genteel.

Also YouTube used to have a 1-4 or 5 star rating system which was much more beneficial.
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I'd say youtube is an example of a failed community - yuck! I want to be as far away from that as possible.
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I agree with several posters here that it is much better to keep things on the up and up. Thumbs up that is...
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korxonthos wrote:
But why does YouTube have a thumbs down button?


For the same reason every other YouTube comment contains a profanity or a personal insult or an add for discounted sneakers.
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