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I am learning 1830 and curious as to what angle players like to position the home tile (#57 / A7) for the NYC if the NYC is floated in either 1st or 2nd Operating Round. Specifically, do you angle it going directly toward NYC or not? Or do you aim toward Boston?

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It entirely depends on what other companies have been floated, their operating order, and the current state of track. That said, it is remarkably unlikely that I'll float the NYC in either the first or second SR in anything but a 6 player game.
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90% of the time you head to NYC.
It's big money and has no costs.
To get to Boston, you have to blow a mountain. If the B&M player has done that already, that's a consideration.
Also have to look at what the NYNH player is doing.
Only rarely can he really block you. Usually not in his interest.
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clearclaw wrote:
It entirely depends on what other companies have been floated, their operating order, and the current state of track. That said, it is remarkably unlikely that I'll float the NYC in either the first or second SR in anything but a 6 player game.


What are good companies to float first or second OR?
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Deaddogdays wrote:
What are good companies to float first or second OR?

NYNH and B&M. Even better if both open in the first OR.
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Deaddogdays wrote:
What are good companies to float first or second OR?


B&M, C&O, NYNH&H, PRR and in a 5 or 6 player game, the CanPac.
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Hey all,

Thank you for the great answers and input. Seems like there is a ton to learn here that can't be learned solo.

I have played a few two-player games, but the two-player game is clearly not the same game as the three + player game.

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Ross
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As already mentioned . . . it depends . .

The NYC as an early company faces several problems:

It has to build track on its home hex in its first turn.

The needed track tile (57) can be out of stock.

The most promising route via hex F20 to New York City may be blocked by the NYNH or the BM.

All these make the NYC a suboptimal candidate for an early company unless in a two-player game, where one player opens the NYC AND either the NYNH or the BM in the first stock round.

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PzVIE wrote:
Deaddogdays wrote:
What are good companies to float first or second OR?


NYNH and B&M. Even better if both open in the first OR.


I think those two really need that lone #1(A13) tile to establish an early synergy.

If the C&O operates prior to the NYNH, building to Akron/Canton and choosing the #1(A13) tile is going to hurt.
 
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Even with a friendly B&M I'll generally prefer to play a #56 as the NYNH&H's first tile.
 
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The only legal play with the #56 is then to connect to Albany since all of the other rotations end in the sea.

Albany being the home of the NYC will upgrade only from a #57 to a #14 or a #15.

Do tiles like the #14 allow a change of direction (the two large city circles are not clearly separated as on the #59 tile, for example)? In other words, if entering the #14 from the North can the route angle to the Northwest or continue straight South. or is it compelled to continue Southeast?
 
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Train routes may change directions (only) at revenue centres.
 
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clearclaw wrote:
Train routes may change directions (only) at revenue centres.


You lost me - tile #14 (B35) is a revenue location.

What we're unclear on is:

A) if tiles like #14 (B35) are a single city with two station spots, then a change of direction would be allowed.

B) if tiles like #14 (B35) are two separate cities with two different connections, then a change of direction would not be allowed.

We initially played B), but now I think it's A).
 
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It is a single city.
 
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NYC as a first company really only works if the NH hasn't formed and you can start it at a share value that puts it ahead of the B&M in turn order. Those two things are unlikely to happen. Otherwise the NH director is likely to place the baseball tile (#1) on F20 on turn one (or the B&M director will do it on turn two before you) and you have nowhere to go.

If you DO get the opportunity to start it right away it could work out. It won't churn out early cash like the NH can but it has better long term prospects because of its better home position for the late game and its larger number of tokens. Depending on how you feel about the B&M owner, you could start with either a #56 (unfriendly if you place it to go to New York, weird if you place it to go to Providence) or a #69 (neutral to NYC, weird to Providence).
 
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