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Has anyone tried deciphering the blury images in the recent wave 3 announcement on the FFG site. For instance it looks like the hwk-290 will come with a ion turret, a blaster turret, a saboteur, the moldy crow title card, an intelligence agent, and a something specialist. Is anyone else good at reading blury text?
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4116


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The B-wing will come with a regular torpedo, an advanced torpedo, an ion cannon, an autoblaster, and a fire control system

The Tie Bomber will come with the proton bomb, a seismic charge, an advanced torpedo, an assault missle and one I can't make out.

I cant figure anything out from the Shuttle.
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for the shuttle, i'm seeing the following:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12

1: "heavy laser cannon" from wave 2

2: "advanced sensors"

3: "sensor jammer"

5: "rebel captive"

6: "weapons engineer" from wave 2

12: what looks like the unique title for the shuttle at the end.

that's a crap load of upgrades... likely to pick up at least two shuttles now

i'm dying to know what the upgrade with the green laser is... looks we'll get a pair of them.
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the tie bomber comes with a leader card.
 
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I think the last card for the bomber says adrenaline rush, and the first card for the shuttle is a heavy laser cannon.
 
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xBino wrote:
i'm dying to know what the upgrade with the green laser is... looks we'll get a pair of them.



It's almost certainly a new Modification card, since the YT and Firespray had two of each Modification that they came with--no idea what it will do. Given that the picture shows a laser blast, I wonder if it's an upgrade that allows for improving a ship's weaponry in some way? Either way, I hope it's not a power-creep attempt to sell more shuttles.


Also, I'm shocked to see that both the Bomber and B-Wing apparently have access to Elite Talents, unlike the Y-Wing. This may indicate that they're maneuver wheels won't be quite as bad as some of us were anticipating.


Additionally, I'm a bit surprised that they appear to not be including the HLC in the B-Wing pack, so anyone who wants to run a B-Wing "swarm" with HLCs will need to pick up a bunch of Firesprays or Shuttles. The choice to reprint Weapons Engineer, of all crew, is odd: I realize he's quite amazing with Jendon, but I don't feel like players are hurting for more Weapon Engineers.

Time will tell! Also, I wonder why the HWK comes with so darn many Focus tokens?
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Yes, last card for TIE Bomber says Adrenaline Rush. It is an elite pilot upgrade.

Lambda shuttle
ABCDEFG
HIJKL

A - HLC
B - advanced sensors
C - sensor jammer
D - Darth Vader, unique, Imperial only
E - rebel captive
F - weapons engineer
G - navigator
H - flight instructor? laugh That's why the shuttle's wings fold. For the parallel parking scenario.
I - intelligence agent, also with HWK-290
J,K - Anti something Laser?, a modification, that's why there are 2
L - ST-321, Title
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my god, you must have great eyes

truth be told, i can't read any of the text in that FFG image. it's only by going off the pictures on the cards that gave me the clues
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RogueThirteen wrote:



Also, I'm shocked to see that both the Bomber and B-Wing apparently have access to Elite Talents, unlike the Y-Wing. This may indicate that they're maneuver wheels won't be quite as bad as some of us were anticipating.


"Adreneline Rush" with the Bomber sounds like a medal (Elite) upgrade, but what looks like a medal upgrade on the B-wing? The new cards seem to be the Adv. Proton Torpedo (Torpedo), Autoblaster (Cannon), and Fire Control System (Systems upgrade).
 
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Good call, OP! I'm excited to see the blaster turret confirmed for the HWK; I was gonna be sad if it basically just needed an ion cannon turret to be viable. Can anyone tell what the bold text under "blaster turret" says? "Attack (Focus):"? "Action (Something)"?
 
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It looks like the highest skilled bomber pilot is a 7. That would make it the first ship without a skill 8 or 9 pilot.
 
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HWK-290 cards:
Ion Cannon Turret
Blaster Turret
Recon Specialist
Moldy Crow
Saboteur
Intelligence Agent

B-Wing cards:
Proton Torpedoes
Advanced Proton Torpedoes
Ion Cannon
Autoblaster
Fire Control System

TIE Bomber cards:
Advanced Proton Torpedoes
Assault Missile
Seismic Charge
Proton Bomb
?Adrenaline Rush?

Shuttle:
Sensor Jammer
Rebel Captive
Advanced Sensors
?Navigator?
ST-321
Heavy Laser Cannon
Weapons Engineer
?Something that could be 'Flight Technician' or something like that?
Two of the cards - middle top row, and second from left on bottom - definitely look like more "passengers" (a la the 'rebel captive')
...lots that are too hard to read

Seems mostly what others are seeing, too.
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The HWK has a ton of focus tokens and the Shuttle has 4 ion tokens. Likely these are for the 3 cost ship titles.
 
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To me it looks like the Bomber and B-Wing only have 1 Unique each, am I wrong there? As mentioned in other threads, Scimitar Squadron may be the Skill 6 Generic some of us hope for

EDIT: Squinting harder makes it look like maybe 2 Uniques each.. opinions?
 
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XanderF wrote:
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Good calls, throughout.

I'm particularly interested in the "Anti-something Laser" is the one I'm interested in. (It looks a bit like "anti-personnel" to me, but that doesn't make any sense.) It also doesn't look like it has the anatomy of a secondary weapon, and as others have noted, it comes in the right quantity for a modification. Should be interesting to see!

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knuckles29 wrote:
To me it looks like the Bomber and B-Wing only have 1 Unique each, am I wrong there? As mentioned in other threads, Scimitar Squadron may be the Skill 6 Generic some of us hope for

EDIT: Squinting harder makes it look like maybe 2 Uniques each.. opinions?
2 uniques each, and the name of the generic PS2 Bomber looks like "Scimitar" to me.
 
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: Deadwolf The HWK has a ton of focus tokens


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Rogue 13: Also, I wonder why the HWK comes with so darn many Focus tokens?


Kyle Katarn's unique pilot ability is to pass focus tokens to other ships.
Maybe some of the unknown upgrades also deal with focus.

ST-321 is the radio designation for Vader's personal shuttle.
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I'm thinking the "anti-something laser" is anti-missile laser. Its the only thing I can think of that could warrant an upgrade to hard counter. It would also make sense seeing the projectile focus of the small ships this wave.
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Deadwolf wrote:
I'm thinking the "anti-something laser" is anti-missile laser. Its the only thing I can think of that could warrant an upgrade to hard counter. It would also make sense seeing the projectile focus of the small ships this wave.


This makes good sense...

So what about Adrenaline Rush?

Something that mitigates stress perhaps?




 
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Deadwolf wrote:
I'm thinking the "anti-something laser" is anti-missile laser. Its the only thing I can think of that could warrant an upgrade to hard counter. It would also make sense seeing the projectile focus of the small ships this wave.


Perhaps it says "Anti-Projectile Laser." Maybe it lets you re-roll an agility die when you're defending against a projectile. Or, given the Wave 3 theme of making focus matter even more, perhaps it changes a blank roll to a focus. Pure speculation, obviously, but what else are we gonna do 'til release?
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Vorpal Sword wrote:

I'm particularly interested in the "Anti-something Laser" is the one I'm interested in. (It looks a bit like "anti-personnel" to me, but that doesn't make any sense.) It also doesn't look like it has the anatomy of a secondary weapon, and as others have noted, it comes in the right quantity for a modification. Should be interesting to see!


Also, where it is suppose to say "Modification" at the top of the text, it says a bit more than that. Perhaps a restriction of some kind. Limited to certain ships, maybe.
 
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I was just about to make a new thread for this, but here's my analysis.

I noticed that the preview includes the card fans, so I took a closer look at them. I've identified all but 9 cards, which I numbered. I was hoping that someone might be able to make better sense of these than I.

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http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?e...
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http://www.afewmaneuvers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2769

--?? #1
Reference card, possibly says Modification. Implying that the HWK-290 uses different rules for Modifications, possibly more than 1.

--?? #2
Blaster Turret
The second word is turret, implying that we'll get a new turret to use with the Y-Wing. It has an expanded Attack header, Attack (Focus) perhaps?

--?? #3
See ?? #8

--?? #4
New reference card. Possibly says "Using". Based on the spacing, it does not say Reference Card #3 like the Bomb Token. Though that one may only be numbered because it's the same name; it may explain using bombs because lots of people didn't seem to understand them well.

--?? #5
Darth Vader
This is a unique card because of the bullet (•) and has the same "Imperial Only" restriction as the Rebel Captive. The image is Darth Vader, and the Lambda-Class Shuttle can't take Elite Pilot Talents, so I'm hoping it's Vader.

--?? #6
Similar artwork to the Advanced Sensors. I'm assuming it's a sensor array upgrade.

--?? #7
Crew member, judging by the icon. Appears to be an imperial officer

--?? #8
Intelligence Agent.
Crew member, judging by the icon. This appears to be the same card as ?? #3, meaning it can be used by both sides. I'm guess that the saboteur is a crew member, and it mentions Range 1. Maybe this is some kind of ship defense to be used against boarding parties?

--?? #9
Anti-Projectile Laser?
The only upgrade cards without icons are titles, which the ST-321 already is, and modifications. The fact that it comes with 2 is a giveaway for modification, just like wave 2.


B-Wing



HWK-290



Tie Bomber



Lambda-Class Shuttle
 
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#2 looks like "Blaster Turret"
#3 looks like "Intelligence Agent" meaning that #8 is the same
 
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gransom wrote:
#2 looks like "Blaster Turret"
#3 looks like "Intelligence Agent" meaning that #8 is the same


That seems to be the common speculation. Added.
 
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#5 really seems to be darth vader - it's also the same art they used on the darth vader card in the card game

I can make out the unique dot, followed by Darth and the left half of a V just before the next card
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The 2 reference cards explain the rules for titles (HWK-290) and bombs (TIE Bomber). They should be the exact same rules that are in the booklets that came with the YT and Firespray (and presumably the shuttle).
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The first reference card is Bomb Token #2

I'm not sure about the 2nd one that comes with the Tie/B.

Though the one on the HWK-290 does look a little like the back of an upgrade card.
 
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