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Michael Howe
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I might be getting a small group together, me and three very smart folks who are new to eurogaming. I am somewhat experienced in eurogames (Carc, T&E, Manhatten, Shadow of the Emperor, etc.) and very experienced in wargames and abstracts. I'd like a eurogame or light wargame learnable and playable in an evening of 3-4 hours. Shorter gaming time is okay too, so that we could play twice in an evening, but I don't want a game that is too light or too luck-driven. Also, no card games, although board games with cards as an element would be fine. I would be very desirable if the game was playable by 3 if someone can't make it, but it does not have to be playable by 2. I own copies of Carcassonne, T&E, Attika, Tikal, Alhambra, and Shadow of the Emperor. Can you suggest other good choices? Thanks!
 
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Eric Knauer
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Caylus & Goa would work well with three but copies are not easy to find.

How about Railroad Tycoon?
 
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Scott Nicholson
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Re: Suggestions for 4 or 3, one veteran and some smart newbi
One game that fits your length and light wargamey background is Friedrich. It's (kind of) three on one, and the one needs to be good at these types of light wargames to be able to do well. If the three work together, they can really give the experienced one a challenge.


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Mmm...Torres, Java, Tikal? Should be time for two games unless people have analysis paralysis...Torres is probably easiest to get.
 
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Mark Christopher
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I'll second the recommendation for Friedrich. Slim, euro-style rules (6 pages, IIRC), but still a tense wargame. Can one or more of the allies win before cruel fate removes them from the war?
 
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Kent Reuber
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China/Web of Power or Ticket to Ride? Both use cards, but I wouldn't consider either a card game.
 
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Re: Suggestions for 4 or 3, one veteran and some smart newbi
St. Petersburg is my general pick. Vinci is my light wargame pick. And is Settlers of Catan not a possibility?
 
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Freidrich will almost certainly go over your alloted time, so be aware.

I would suggest staying with games that you already own and are familiar with....nothing turns off people more than someone stumbling through the rules explanation. If you go with something new, make sure you read rules multiple times and even play a couple of rounds before teaching.

If you want something new, I'm going to suggest the tried and true Puerto Rico. It's a great game when everyone is starting at the same level...the issues it has only arise when people of varying experience mix.
 
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Re: Suggestions for 4 or 3, one veteran and some smart newbi


Antike. Seems to fit every requirement. meeple
 
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Re: Suggestions for 4 or 3, one veteran and some smart newbi
I would like to suggest Tigris & Eupharates. This is the 1st game I though of when I saw your thread title.

When I first played it, it was a little hard to wrap my head around it but the game really clicked in my mind halfway in. And at that time, I was still relatively new to euro-games. If your friends are fairly smart, they shouldn't have a problem at all.

It's a challenging game that plays well with 3-4, and really doesn't take that very long, and it offers alot of challenges within that timeframe.

I definately recommend this game.
 
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You might want to try out Torres. It is somewhat similar to Tikal in terms of having a set number of points to carry out a series of actions. Game play is rather stimulating and if you had liked Tikal, then Torres would be something worth trying out as well.

Have you tried the other games in the Alea series like Puerto Rico and Prince of Florence? They don't take too long to learn and are both playable in a couple of hours.
 
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Re: Suggestions for 4 or 3, one veteran and some smart newbi
Princes of Florence, Tikal (auction version), China, Samurai.
 
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Jim C
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My first suggestion is Conquest of Empires. a great 2 to 6 person war board game that is easy to learn and uses strategy as much as luck. Takes 3 to 4 hours.

I also really enjoy Risk. Readily available,great for 3-6 players.

Citadels is one I just tried this weekend. Great card game for 3 to 7 people. Takes some thought. Can be pllayed in 45 minutes.
 
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