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Are there designer notes anywhere which explain why each of the clean power plants are clean// what they represent? My group was describing many in terms of burning things(wood(forest), trash(recycling), corn(biofuel)), and that doesn't seem very clean--- but I know nothing of the subject matter. (though Solar and Nuclear seem self explanatory from a CO2 perspective)

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Just to confirm, in the rulebooks all the technologies are referred to as power plants, and not merely CO2 reducing industries:

5 Forestation power plant tiles
5 Biomass power plant tiles
5 Solar power plant tiles
5 Recycling power plant tiles
5 Cold fusion power plant tiles
 
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The tree symbol is reforestation. Not burning wood but planting trees.
 
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McJarvis wrote:
Are there designer notes anywhere which explain why each of the clean power plants are clean// what they represent? My group was describing many in terms of burning things(wood(forest), trash(recycling), corn(biofuel)), and that doesn't seem very clean--- but I know nothing of the subject matter. (though Solar and Nuclear seem self explanatory from a CO2 perspective)


Are they power plants or ways to reduce CO2?
 
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Some are the latter.
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Funguy wrote:
McJarvis wrote:
Are there designer notes anywhere which explain why each of the clean power plants are clean// what they represent? My group was describing many in terms of burning things(wood(forest), trash(recycling), corn(biofuel)), and that doesn't seem very clean--- but I know nothing of the subject matter. (though Solar and Nuclear seem self explanatory from a CO2 perspective)


Are they power plants or ways to reduce CO2?


In the rulebook they are all identified as plants. (and all are identified as green power plants--- and all can replace old dirty power sources)
 
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McJarvis wrote:
Funguy wrote:
McJarvis wrote:
Are there designer notes anywhere which explain why each of the clean power plants are clean// what they represent? My group was describing many in terms of burning things(wood(forest), trash(recycling), corn(biofuel)), and that doesn't seem very clean--- but I know nothing of the subject matter. (though Solar and Nuclear seem self explanatory from a CO2 perspective)


Are they power plants or ways to reduce CO2?


In the rulebook they are all identified as plants. (and all are identified as green power plants--- and all can replace old dirty power sources)


Right, but thematically, I think of them as you are planting forests or installing a recycling program.
 
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Right, but thematically, I think of them as you are planting forests or installing a recycling program.


Why would a recycling program help CO2 levels? Why would it satisfy a regions power needs for the decade? It makes no sense with what actually happens in the game.

So, I'd like the designer to offer some notes on why he chose the power plants he did and what they represent in the "real world".
 
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Jack - I didn't know you owned CO₂. Do you like it?
 
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Haven't played it yet. That may change tomorrow night
 
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Hi mike,
i just answer you in a GM, but to other people to know my thoughts.

I wrote in the rulebook that the game treat all the elements in the same way, as power plants, just to make the rules easy to play and understand. But the game is not only about power plants and production of energy. It provide some of the most important paths we must work to create a sustainable world free of pollution.

Solar, Nuclear, Recycling, forestation and biomass are some. There are plenty more fields we can develop, but this ones are the most important to me because they represent fields, areas of expertise, not the thing.

Solar is there to represent all green production energy forms, like wind, geothermic, hydraulic ... . The cold fusion represents the development of future technologies and nuclear of course. Forestation, recycling are pretty obvious. Bio mass, the agriculture, and one form of having a sustainable energy source.

Note that forestation provide you with CEPs, yes, you are taking pollution from atmosphere. Recycling provide you with money. Right? Solar and Nuclear gives you technology.
There are a lot of discussions about if recycling is a power plant and burning wood is also a green form of energy. They just play like power plants but they represent fields of expertise (remember the expertise tracks in the game?) needed to have a green sustainable world. I designed tho game with an open mind, I wish you play it in the same way.

Scientific discussions about this are silly and just show that people did not understood the game concept. Remember this is a game and my vision. Nothing more, not an agenda as many say or a scientific treaty like Eckulnd games. Sure forestation is not a power plant. Yeah, the game is not about power plants but about building a green sustainable world and get rich when doing it because the world have the tools to do it.

I wish you just enjoy playing it and have healthy discussions about the theme before, during and afterwards.
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Thanks for the answers Vital. I'm hoping to get this to the table tonight!
 
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We must remember the environmental step. Every the power plant installation keep an envoirment step because nothing is 100% clean. And this is one of the game's rule.

I'm from Brazil and here we have a great hidraulic potential, but this power plant demands the inundation of neighbours areas of forests, and villages. Along the years we're learning to build smallers power plant but in big quantity.
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