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Jennifer Derrick
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I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.

Another person chimed in and said that at her kids' school, they're called "random number generators" instead of dice for the same reason.

Seriously? Is this how far off the rails the PC movement has fallen? Good lord. How is it that I played with "dice" my whole life and yet I've never even set foot in a casino or bought a lottery ticket? Clearly my formative years weren't ruined quite enough.

Well, I'm off to go play some "Martian Numbered Cubes," now.
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From 2009:

we laughed at the translation, but maybe Rio Grande spotted the trend before it was a trend?

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Sue the school for improperly teaching the English language.
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This sounds more like something my legalistic family would do. Much like a computer watching television shows is allowed in their home, while a television is not.

Edit: Avoiding RSP
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Problem solved.
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"Fun" Fact: On The Price is Right, there are two pricing games that use, uh, cubic random number generators. One ("Dice Game") uses standard (though large) dice numbered with 1 to 6 dots. The other ("Let 'Em Roll") has dollar values and pictures of cars. In both cases, a contestant rolls these cubes. In Dice Game, they're of course called "dice." But Bob Barker never referred to the Let 'Em Roll cubes as dice, only as "cubes." (I believe Drew Carey calls them dice though.)

I always chalked that up to a Bob quirk though. I didn't know there was another person in the world who would call cubes that you roll for a random result anything but dice.
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SteveK2 wrote:
From 2009:

we laughed at the translation, but maybe Rio Grande spotted the trend before it was a trend?


Actually they were probably trying to appeal to the euro-gamer and thus included the word 'cube' as often as possible to convince them to buy the game.

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Surely the way to discourage gambling is to give the children a good understanding of basic probability theory and not by misnaming everyday objects?

Maybe wheels should be called "round rotators" so as not to be associated with roulette, and cards should be renamed "flat objects with certain properties" to dissociate them from Poker.
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I'd love to hear how they teach sex ed. Well, if they even teach sex ed.


They can't. It has as much chance of encouraging gambling as using the word 'dice' so it's also not allowed.
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OxfordRow wrote:
I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.

Another person chimed in and said that at her kids' school, they're called "random number generators" instead of dice for the same reason.

Seriously? Is this how far off the rails the PC movement has fallen? Good lord. How is it that I played with "dice" my whole life and yet I've never even set foot in a casino or bought a lottery ticket? Clearly my formative years weren't ruined quite enough.

Well, I'm off to go play some "Martian Numbered Cubes," now.


I haven't heard of anything like that in my area, but I could see it happening in the bible belt.
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Certain religious types are very much against anything that can be seen as gambling. The bizarre American rule on how local education can be so easily manipulated by a couple of busybodies is probably to blame.
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My father discouraged gambling by gathering all three of us kids together with a deck of cards and our piggy banks when we were about 5,6, and 7. He then proceeded to teach us 5 card draw and take us for every penny we had. (Literally pennies.)

None of us has ever gambled money we weren't willing to lose. Sometimes you learn more touching the hot stove than you learn by being kept out of the kitchen. I'm not advocating this method, but rolling the kids up in bubble wrap isn't working either.

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That's called newspeak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak. (Also, remember Nightwatch from Babylon 5.)
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a1bert wrote:
That's called newspeak...


It's not called "newspeak" anymore. It's called synergizing vocabulary.
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    The word "dice" is an exact synonym for the game "craps" in some parts of the community. I'd wager none of the members of those parts of the community are here on BGG. However school districts make general rules.

    Doesn't matter.

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SteveK2 wrote:
From 2009:

we laughed at the translation, but maybe Rio Grande spotted the trend before it was a trend?



I like the term "cubic luck bringers". I think I'll refer to my dice this way from now on. laugh
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OxfordRow wrote:
I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.


Because clearly not teaching the kids in school about these things or using such language to describe them will prevent them from ever gaining knowledge of these things. It's a damn good thing we don't have a global network of computers providing information that is (generally) easily accessible by billions of people or they might find out on their own.

I will never understand this line of thinking. Rather than hide information wouldn't it be more prudent to educate the children to make better choices regarding the "taboo" subject matter?
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Apparently, on Tatooine they're called "chance cubes". shake
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OxfordRow wrote:
I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.


Erm, you got a link to that... or if it's private, a screen shot with suitable names blacked out?
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Sometimes you learn more touching the hot stove than you learn by being kept out of the kitchen. I'm not advocating this method, but rolling the kids up in bubble wrap isn't working either.


You can preach all day to a kid about what gravity is but you can't teach the laws of nature. The kid WILL put it to the test.

How about "symbolic cubes" or "funny rocks" or "school blocks"?
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Evilest Dave wrote:
OxfordRow wrote:
I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.


Erm, you got a link to that... or if it's private, a screen shot with suitable names blacked out?


Here ya go. And, no, I am not the OP in that thread.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3128677
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OxfordRow wrote:
Evilest Dave wrote:
OxfordRow wrote:
I was reading a thread on a message board (not gaming related) and a woman said her kid came home from school with a note that they are no longer to refer to dice as "dice" due to the association with gambling and the "fact" that it may encourage kids to gamble.


Erm, you got a link to that... or if it's private, a screen shot with suitable names blacked out?


Here ya go. And, no, I am not the OP in that thread.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3128677

Danke schön! I always worry about urban legends with stories that seem too good stupid to be true...

But since this seems legit, I'd say you're probably right about PC (vs Bible-thumping), since I've never heard of Toronto being a hot-bed of religious fervor (doubtless a Canadian will reel off 200 years of Toronto history at me whistle).
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Remember that we have a Religion, Sex, and Politics forum and that those topics are restricted to that forum. Posting on those topics outside of that forum can result in being moderated.

Please keep the discussion away from RSP topics - all of which have been brought up in some form or another in this thread already.

If you see someone else trying to push discussion in those directions, flag it and forget it. DO NOT RESPOND. Responding only invites more in return, and you may end up dragging yourself down with other folks who have already been moderated.

Using the icon serves two functions - first, if enough users flag a post then it will be collapsed from general view. Second, flagging posts helps bring them to the attention of the forum moderators.

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To be fair, and many of you may know this, the German word "Würfel" may be translated as either "dice" or "cubes."

I still think this is ridiculous. Henceforth, computers shall be referred to as "calculating devices," to discourage children from using them to view questionable content someday.

Edit: No RSP
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The best maths lesson I remember in secondary school (UK) was when Mr Penna explained how the odds in a horse race are always weighted towards the bookie. Haven't gambled since... (well, not that I gambled before that, but you know what I mean...)

Children have to be trusted to make their own educated choices.
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