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Daniel Potter
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Hello BGG!

Me and my wife have recently started playing board games and are looking to make another purchase.

So far we have:

Castles of Burgundy (Both love)
Lords of Waterdeep (Wife's favorite)
Carrcassone (Both enjoy)
Pandemic (Wife likes, I don't mind it)
RFTG (I like it more than my wife)
Civ 4 (Both like but it is long and we think it will be better with more)
Risk 2210 (I love it. Wife doesn't)

Small World (We don't like it. Have played it with 2 and 5. With 5 it was boring. Looking to trade it away)
Earth Reborn (Too fiddly and boring for both of us, I really wanted to like)

Games I know we want:
Agricola
Dungeon Petz/Lords
Keyflower

These will work for us right? Any other suggestions?

Bonus question:

Is there a game that mixes a game like risk that a Euro player (my wife) would like?

Thanks!
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My wife and I enjoy San Juan, it is a really good 2 player game. Eight-Minute Empire is another go to game for us. We just discovered Castles of Burgundy and it is a current favorite.
 
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I only play with my girlfriend as well, Dungeon Petz is a big step up. check out:

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Alien Frontiers
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For your bonus question: Kemet or Clash of Cultures
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Potta wrote:

Bonus question:

Is there a game that mixes a game like risk that a Euro player (my wife) would like?
I would give Nexus Ops a shot. My gf really likes it and its kind of a light ameritrash-wargame. But I can see it having some appeal to euro players especially concerning unit purchase and placement.
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I recommend Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small, Carcassonne: The Castle, and Lost Cities.
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jakece wrote:
Potta wrote:

Bonus question:

Is there a game that mixes a game like risk that a Euro player (my wife) would like?
I would give Nexus Ops a shot. My gf really likes it and its kind of a light ameritrash-wargame. But I can see it having some appeal to euro players especially concerning unit purchase and placement.
Shogun or Wallenstein (second edition) could be an option as well.
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What you should buy, I think, depends more on if you want more of the same kind of games you've already got so you're just dealing in nuances or if you want to expand the kind of collection you have to encompass more genres.

Some people want a huge collection of games so they can always find the exact kind of game the situation calls for, trading the diversity with less plays per game.

Some people prefer a much smaller collection, but made of games that can handle hundreds, even thousands of games.

The latter solution sounds like the best for a lot of people, BUT!!!, those games that lend themselves well to a lot of replays are often somewhat technical at first at take time to get used to. They require you to slog through a lot of games before you really get to grips with the game and this period of 'breaking in' is not fun for a lot of people. Those people that do like this are the people that know that these games will reward them in the long run.

I usually think of this as an enjoyment ceiling. RISK2210 has been played to death by the guys I game with. Every game they play, plays out in somewhat the same manner. It took them about 50 games probably, but they've got it nailed down to a science. The enjoyment ceiling for a game like go on the other hand...
People have played this game, and this game only, for a lifetime and they are still learning things about go.
This doesn't mean that go is only good when you're one gazillion years old and have junzu smell on your fingers, but the game KEEPS being good if you can stand the initial confusion.



There are some games that I've found are easy to learn and will keep you interested for a very long period of time:
Twilight Struggle
Commands & Colours; Ancients
go
Arimaa
shogi (although the game feels sort of close-range and glacial compared to chess)
Android; Netrunner
Magic the Gathering cube drafting (don't buy decks, buy cubes) with the added benefit that you can tweak your own game experience as you see fit.

My GF absolutely loves Twilight Struggle, Commands & Colours and Android: Netrunner. And she hates rules!

Wargames in particular reward a LOT of repeated plays. Wargames are surrounded by a lot of stigmata because of certain vocal, obnoxious, , grognard elements among the fan base, but the truth I've found is that wargames are some of the absolutely best and most engrossing games out there as long as you play them with the right people. But the good wargames are usually the ones that reward repeated play the most.

I DO have my eyes set on Sekigahara; The unification of Japan, which is set to re-release before August. It's short (people report 1.5 hours playtime , block style, beautiful, card driven, has bluffing and everyone who've played it seem totally in love with the game. I even think the rulebook is shorter for Sekigahara than it is for Agricola...

So in short: Consider whether you want a diverse collection or a focused collection. It actually makes a difference to the kind of recommendations you'd listen to

Happy hunting.
Remember to sell the games you don't play before buying (too many) new ones.
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If you are interested in Keyflower now is a good time to buy -- check out this thread [US only] Keyflower $39 shipped on kickstarter
 
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I second Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small. its a great quick playing game that is always fun.

Also, Agricola is just a marvel of game design. I appreciate it more and more each time my wife and I play.

You can't go wrong with Agric!
 
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Hi, to answer your last question, a euro game but with Risk elements? The first game that comes to mind is A Brief History of the World. There's area control like risk, but with many euro elements within. It encourages conflict, but has a number of ways to score other than trying to wipe a player out. (I HATE games that eliminate players.)

As far as games that scale well with 2--looking at your list--consider Le Havre...we both love Agricola, LeHavre was a logical follow through.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. I am interested in twilight struggle but am worried that my wife will not like it.

I am going to do the keyflower kickstarter and may pick up dungeon petz soon.
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Potta wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I am interested in twilight struggle but am worried that my wife will not like it.

I am going to do the keyflower kickstarter and may pick up dungeon petz soon.
You need to decide if you want a game for you or your wife. I wouldn't think Twilight Struggle would be for the wife. Dungeon Petz is a better choice.

Also take a look at Takenoko.
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Thanks again. My to buy list looks like:

1. Cyclades
2. Dungeon Petz
3. Keyflower kickstarter

I still need to add 2-3 more games for us to get this year. Should I go with Agricola or the 2p variant? I am leaning more toward the full game.

Other games I am considering (+the ones mentioned in this thread):

Chaos in the old World
Shipyard
Suburbia
Merchants and Marauders
Claustrophobia
Trajan
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Check out Cthulhu Wars, still time left to get in on the kickstarter
 
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LunarSoundDesign wrote:
Check out Cthulhu Wars, still time left to get in on the kickstarter
Looks really neat but it is out of my budget and does not seem to be for 2 players.

Thanks though.
 
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Potta wrote:
LunarSoundDesign wrote:
Check out Cthulhu Wars, still time left to get in on the kickstarter
Looks really neat but it is out of my budget and does not seem to be for 2 players.

Thanks though.
Actually it's 2-5, the two player rules are being finalized.
 
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How about Summoner Wars? Great if you only have two people. There is also a game called Berserk: War of the Realms that is on Kickstarter now that seems similar to Summoner Wars but with a bit more complexity.
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Amirabutwo wrote:
for using "my wife" instead of "the wife".
How much gold would I get if I said recommend me a game for me and "a" wife?
 
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My wife and I enjoy Macao two-player, and I'd recommend it given your love of Castles of Burgundy. They are different games, but similarly meaty.

The two-player games we've played most are Race for the Galaxy (which you mention as not being a perfect fit for you), Dominion (which I hesitate to recommend because Race isn't a great fit), and Magnate (which I hesitate to recommend because I don't want to shill for it; but, seriously, Magnate is one to think about whistle).
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For your bonus question, I think Eclipse & Mage Knight Board Game may be worth a look. Although I haven't played either, just been on BGG too much & listening to board game podcasts. whistle
 
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Our preferences seem similar to yours. We like Castles of Burgundy, found Earth Reborn too fiddly and Small World boring (although we tend to keep it around).

YOUR TO-BUY LIST

Get Agricola - it's brill. Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small is a 'travel' edition of Agricola for two players only. It's cheap so, if you're unsure about Agricola, I'd get that.

Dungeon Petz/Dungeon Lords have two (!) dummy players when you're playing with two. I've never considered them for this reason - it seems like the game would become unpleasantly fiddly.

You seem to be interested in cute themes. If that's the case, Takenoko is cool. We also like the eurogame Finca, which is excellent with two. You might also want to investigate Seasons, which can be tried for free on Boardgamearena.

BONUS QUESTION

For euro Risk, you can't go wrong with Summoner Wars. It's quick, tactical and extremely replayable.

For more 'far-out' options, consider Dominant Species, which combines a war game with worker placement and plays ok with two. It also has a non-traditional wargame theme - it's about evolution and Darwinian competition between species. Clash of Cultures and Cyclades also combine euro mechanics with wargames/Risk. Cyclades has auctions and plays ok with two. Clash is excellent with two, although it can take a couple of hours to play.

OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE THREAD

Mage Knight is among our most-played games, but it is VERY long and complex. It has two multi-page rulebooks (with small text) and games can take up to five/six hours with two. Don't even think about Eclipse with two - it's unbalanced and not fun.

Liking Castles of Burgundy is no guarantee that you'll like any other game designed by Stefan Feld. I like Castles, but aren't keen on Macao or Trajan. If you want to try another Feld game, I'd consider Arena: Roma II.
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Potta wrote:
Thanks again. My to buy list looks like:

1. Cyclades
2. Dungeon Petz
3. Keyflower
If you are in search of a good 2 player game, Cyclades is not really a good choice, in my opinion.
Instead, you should take a look at:
- Tony's list
- Sean's list

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Should I go with Agricola or the 2p variant?
The normal Agricola is better, in my opinion.
 
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