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http://kotaku.com/the-father-of-civilization-584568276

Reading this article, it is clear that liking his games growing up is a strong predictor of being a board gamer...
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Great article! Thanks for posting it. Nice to know a little about the man who created so many hours of entertainment. He really changed the video game world and we have seen many of his ideas in modern board games. Merchants and Marauders is clearly based on Sid Meier's Pirates for example. Even his IP was bought by Fantasy Flight and then release SM Civilization The Board Game (Kevin Wilson's masterpiece IMO). I expect more of his games/game ideas to come to table top format.
 
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Sacrilege!

Now, whilst I LOVE Sid Meier's Civ, the original computer game of the early 1990s, and some of it's successors especially Civ II, Sid cannot be declared "The Father of Civilization". That title must surely belong to Francis Tresham, the design genius who gave us 18xx AND Civilization. Civilization was the first game to introduce the concept of a tech tree, a much used mechanic ever since in the history of both board and video games.

Avalon Hill's Bruce Shelley worked with Sid on the development of Railroad Tycoon and Civilization, and both 1830 and Avalon Hill's (ie Francis Tresham's) Civilization were inspirations for those games. I wouldn't suggest for a moment that anything was ripped off from Tresham by the way - that's not what I'm saying. Meier's games were brilliant and innovative.

Sid Meier is a giant of the video game industry, those 2 games mentioned were superb and original, and probably several he has done since. I take nothing away from Sid in that regard - I love the man.

But - if anyone is to be declared as "The Father of Civilization", then it has to be the one and only Francis Tresham!

EDIT: Change "the inspirations" to "inspirations" in light of the following post.
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Seghillian wrote:
Avalon Hill's Bruce Shelley worked with Sid on the development of Railroad Tycoon and Civilization, and both 1830 and Avalon Hill's (ie Francis Tresham's) Civilization were the inspirations for those games.


They were inspirations, certainly, but I would not presume they were the only inspirations.
 
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Peristarkawan wrote:
They were inspirations, certainly, but I would not presume they were the only inspirations.


I'll edit to correct that.
 
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