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Hello,

Need an German abbreviation for close anti personnel protection system on late World war 2 German AFV's.

Nahverteidigungswaffe

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NahVW?
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NVW.
N for nah=close
Verteidigung=defense
Waffe=weapon.

edit: was the OP asking for an "official" abbreviation?
That was simply my educated guess based on my knowledge of german language and AFVs!
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I did just a quick search but could not find an official abbreviation. NVW sounds about right, although it seeems the Wehrmacht preferred longer abbreviations like "NahVerW" ;-).

Here is one of the links I found:

http://www.custermen.net/nahvert/nah.htm

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Thamos von Nostria wrote:
I did just a quick search but could not find an official abbreviation. NVW sounds about right, although it seeems the Wehrmacht preferred longer abbreviations like "NahVerW" ;-).

Here is one of the links I found:

http://www.custermen.net/nahvert/nah.htm

I don't have a source near-to-hand but for some reason I seem to think the 92mm grenade projectors had another name altogether that was used apart from the official nahverteidigungswaffe, though perhaps it was only in colloquial day-to-day use rather than in documentation. A glance through the Tiger or Panther Fibel might turn something up.

Tiger Fiber is online here:

http://archive.org/stream/Der-Generalinspekteur-der-Panzertr...

Panther Fibel here:

http://archive.org/stream/Panther-fibel-BetriebUndKampfanlei...
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Thamos von Nostria wrote:
although it seeems the Wehrmacht preferred longer abbreviations like "NahVerW"
presumably this rhymes better than 'NahVW' ?
 
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Knowing a bit German and the long words they have I'm afraid it is an abbreviation
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There is indeed no official abbreviation. The usual Wehrmacht-abbreviations for the following syllables are:
Nah = N
Ver(bindung/pflegung/teidigung = Ver (sometimes V)
Waffe = Wa
http://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/thread.php?threadid=1468

So I think that you can choose freely, but - like Andreas wrote before - some abbreviations do not sound very German (e.g., NVWa, NVerWa).
I suggest: NahVerWa (sounds like a Wehrmacht-abbreviation) or NVW (a more modern abbreviation).
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So, you are looking for an abbreviation that never was ?
 
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Mortifikator wrote:
There is indeed no official abbreviation. The usual Wehrmacht-abbreviations for the following syllables are:
Nah = N
Ver(bindung/pflegung/teidigung = Ver (sometimes V)
Waffe = Wa
http://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/thread.php?threadid=1468

So I think that you can choose freely, but - like Andreas wrote before - some abbreviations do not sound very German (e.g., NVWa, NVerWa).
I suggest: NahVerWa (sounds like a Wehrmacht-abbreviation) or NVW (a more modern abbreviation).
"G" for "grenade launcher" also works well without being a history lesson. ASL uses the abbreviation "sN9" for all the sense that seems to make to them. After coming up with sD for smoke Discharger, sP for smoke Pots, and sM for smoke Mortar, I guess they wanted some kind of consistency.
 
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Mallet wrote:

So, you are looking for an abbreviation that never was ?
Neverwaseditedwaffen

Don't forget that in ASL the sN can do smoke (s) or CC defense (N). Also, a quick glance at the table on page H10 shows the sN# seems to come in three flavours: 7, 8 & 9.
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